Comments on: Creative Introducing EAX and X-Fi Support http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451 Embrace your Inner Penguin Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:48:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Anonymous http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-85353 Anonymous Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:36:16 +0000 #comment-85353 where is information from that sites? URLZ={4,6}{ long beach hotel file urls.txt}URLZ={4,6}{ palmdale hotel file urls.txt}URLZ={4,6}{ anaheim hotel file urls.txt}URLZ={4,6}{ index1 file urls.txt}URLZ={4,6}{ index3 file urls.txt}URLZ={4,6}{ raleigh hotel file urls.txt}URLZ={4,6}{ rochester hotel file urls.txt}URLZ={4,6}{ plano hotel file urls.txt}URLZ={4,6}{ denver hotel file urls.txt} where is information from that sites?
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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-38181 Anonymous Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:02:07 +0000 #comment-38181 Buying computer hardware also comes with the disclosure of the technique to use the hardware. Opensource every software, for purposes of critique. As software sourcecode is closed, it is expeced to have support that is stable as well as an experimental branch for features that are beyond the expectation of natural processing of data. On the same hand, a purchase of computer software is met by developers by the disclosure of an architecture for them to target. If the x86 architecture, BIOS, bus, and related localhost information wasn't disclosed to developers of that closed-source software then they would complain as much as anyone else. If Queen Richard is upset, then I was upset a few moments before him and it should be me running gnu.org and OSI and FSF. Kniggets... Buying computer hardware also comes with the disclosure of the technique to use the hardware. Opensource every software, for purposes of critique. As software sourcecode is closed, it is expeced to have support that is stable as well as an experimental branch for features that are beyond the expectation of natural processing of data.

On the same hand, a purchase of computer software is met by developers by the disclosure of an architecture for them to target. If the x86 architecture, BIOS, bus, and related localhost information wasn’t disclosed to developers of that closed-source software then they would complain as much as anyone else.

If Queen Richard is upset, then I was upset a few moments before him and it should be me running gnu.org and OSI and FSF.

Kniggets…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-37947 Anonymous Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:15:53 +0000 #comment-37947 I am still using a dedicated/off the internet Windows 98 box because of the Creative AWE cards with expanded memory and custom patch sets that there is absolutely nothing like it in the Linux world. If you don't want closed source drivers, don't use them, and by all means, don't bitch about them because they aren't free. I will glady pay for them and use them to upgrade. I am still using a dedicated/off the internet Windows 98 box because of the Creative AWE cards with expanded memory and custom patch sets that there is absolutely nothing like it in the Linux world.

If you don’t want closed source drivers, don’t use them, and by all means, don’t bitch about them because they aren’t free. I will glady pay for them and use them to upgrade.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-37929 Anonymous Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:09:52 +0000 #comment-37929 Why all of a sudden does Creative only want to support Linux with closed source drivers? Since they released code and specs with their older soundblaster stuff it has lead to excellent support in Linux with the audigy and probably audigy2 stuff.(although all I own is a Audigy 1 gamer) I remember laughing at Windows users that had to put up with BSOD due to shit-tastic creative drivers. Mine was stable as all get out and had good performance even if I didn't have the EAX stuff. You 'gamers' don't get sucked into this hell of closed source drivers. It's a very shitty way to go. Remember that with windows a major cause of BSOD and other problems were buggy drivers and such. Do you realy want to have to deal with that crap in Linux? I know I don't. There are a lot of audio cards with great open source drivers support (unlike video cards) so don't be stupid and don't give Creative any money until they properly support Linux driver developers. Why all of a sudden does Creative only want to support Linux with closed source drivers?

Since they released code and specs with their older soundblaster stuff it has lead to excellent support in Linux with the audigy and probably audigy2 stuff.(although all I own is a Audigy 1 gamer)

I remember laughing at Windows users that had to put up with BSOD due to shit-tastic creative drivers. Mine was stable as all get out and had good performance even if I didn’t have the EAX stuff.

You ‘gamers’ don’t get sucked into this hell of closed source drivers. It’s a very shitty way to go. Remember that with windows a major cause of BSOD and other problems were buggy drivers and such.

Do you realy want to have to deal with that crap in Linux?

I know I don’t.

There are a lot of audio cards with great open source drivers support (unlike video cards) so don’t be stupid and don’t give Creative any money until they properly support Linux driver developers.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-37921 Anonymous Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:05:56 +0000 #comment-37921 They announced this 6 months ago, where have you all been? They announced this 6 months ago, where have you all been?

]]> By: Ungoliant http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-37861 Ungoliant Mon, 05 Jun 2006 08:38:44 +0000 #comment-37861 >Linux isn't just about Freedom. It's about choices. >I like Linux not just because it's free but because I can choose to look at the source and tweak it. Nice try. The root of all is freedom. Without freedom you wouldn't have any choice. Do you have the choices with windows? >I will buy Creatives supported cards and I also choose to accept what they support it with as I choose with my dollars. Nice. You will decide what you do with your dollars. Nothing to argue with this. >I agree to not bitch about not being able to look at the source for the drivers because whatever Creative will supply will have the better patch sets than is currently availble that is free. Closed drivers are one of the worst pains in Linux actually. My experience is that, with time, even reverse enginereed free drivers are way better. The closest example in time I can remember now is the closed driver for the nvidia network card. You should remember that what the community wants are not always the same that what the companies want to provide. >Linux isn’t just about Freedom. It’s about choices.
>I like Linux not just because it’s free but because I can choose to look at the source and tweak it.

Nice try. The root of all is freedom. Without freedom you wouldn’t have any choice. Do you have the choices with windows?

>I will buy Creatives supported cards and I also choose to accept what they support it with as I choose with my dollars.

Nice. You will decide what you do with your dollars. Nothing to argue with this.

>I agree to not bitch about not being able to look at the source for the drivers because whatever Creative will supply will have the better patch sets than is currently availble that is free.

Closed drivers are one of the worst pains in Linux actually. My experience is that, with time, even reverse enginereed free drivers are way better. The closest example in time I can remember now is the closed driver for the nvidia network card.

You should remember that what the community wants are not always the same that what the companies want to provide.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-37845 Anonymous Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:14:34 +0000 #comment-37845 Linux isn't just about Freedom. It's about choices. I like Linux not just because it's free but because I can choose to look at the source and tweak it. I will buy Creatives supported cards and I also choose to accept what they support it with as I choose with my dollars. I agree to not bitch about not being able to look at the source for the drivers because whatever Creative will supply will have the better patch sets than is currently availble that is free. Linux isn’t just about Freedom. It’s about choices.

I like Linux not just because it’s free but because I can choose to look at the source and tweak it.

I will buy Creatives supported cards and I also choose to accept what they support it with as I choose with my dollars.

I agree to not bitch about not being able to look at the source for the drivers because whatever Creative will supply will have the better patch sets than is currently availble that is free.

]]> By: Ungoliant http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-37766 Ungoliant Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:55:53 +0000 #comment-37766 >If you don't want the new drivers, thats cool with me, I for one am glad to get the support. :) >Now I can get top of the like Audio cards and some earcandy :) Yeah, I know. It doesn't seems bad. In windows is the same :). Now, see. How much years old are the newest Windows XP? Do you remember the features of linux in that time? Even in the supposed stable 2.6 tree, new features and changes are normal(nice thing I think). And these features and changes break binary modules. Closed support for windows is OK, because it is not a moving target like linux. At the end these drivers are not "real" support. And these are only the technical points. I'm not telling anything about freedom now. But remember, Linux is Linux because it is free ( as in freedom ), and "closing" parts is the best way to stop it's development. Sometimes I start to question to lots of people. If you don't value the "freedom" part, why don't use Windows (or Mac OS X)? I think the game scene in Windows is brighter than in Linux ... :) Perhaps I'm a bit boring, but I like to talk about this things :D >If you don’t want the new drivers, thats cool with me, I for one am glad to get the support.

:)

>Now I can get top of the like Audio cards and some earcandy :)

Yeah, I know. It doesn’t seems bad. In windows is the same :). Now, see. How much years old are the newest Windows XP? Do you remember the features of linux in that time? Even in the supposed stable 2.6 tree, new features and changes are normal(nice thing I think). And these features and changes break binary modules.

Closed support for windows is OK, because it is not a moving target like linux. At the end these drivers are not “real” support.

And these are only the technical points. I’m not telling anything about freedom now. But remember, Linux is Linux because it is free ( as in freedom ), and “closing” parts is the best way to stop it’s development.

Sometimes I start to question to lots of people. If you don’t value the “freedom” part, why don’t use Windows (or Mac OS X)? I think the game scene in Windows is brighter than in Linux …

:)

Perhaps I’m a bit boring, but I like to talk about this things :D

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-37765 Anonymous Fri, 02 Jun 2006 11:34:18 +0000 #comment-37765 If you don't want the new drivers, thats cool with me, I for one am glad to get the support. Now I can get top of the like Audio cards and some earcandy :) If you don’t want the new drivers, thats cool with me, I for one am glad to get the support.

Now I can get top of the like Audio cards and some earcandy :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/8451#comment-37762 Anonymous Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:14:57 +0000 #comment-37762 You don't want propietary drivers for your video cards so what cards are you going to use? Huh? Don't buy nVidia even though they supply closed drivers for linux for their cards. Don't by ATI because they do the same. Same for Creative. The open drivers aren't 'good enough', they just produce sound, and a receive input. For those of you who really have used Creative sound cards in the Windows arena know that the creative drivers are pretty good. I've bought memory modules for the ISA card for the AWE series for storing sound patches and at the time, there wasn't a better card on the market. In case you didn't read the blurb, the following caught my eye: MIDI, synthesis) and OpenAL 1.1 (with EAX effects) Which currently doesn't exist for Linux (at least good enough for the Windows counterpart) None of that exists in the Windows world or Linux world without their drivers (EAX only through DirectX but then it's DirectSound). Yes, the default Windows drivers for Creative Cards are sub-par (like everything else they do). My Linux box is still stuck in the Live! series because of lack of drivers and good MIDI synthesis. I welcome their support and I will be a customer as I will finally be able to port my custom patches over the good side. You don’t want propietary drivers for your video cards so what cards are you going to use? Huh? Don’t buy nVidia even though they supply closed drivers for linux for their cards. Don’t by ATI because they do the same.

Same for Creative. The open drivers aren’t ‘good enough’, they just produce sound, and a receive input.
For those of you who really have used Creative sound cards in the Windows arena know that the creative drivers are pretty good.

I’ve bought memory modules for the ISA card for the AWE series for storing sound patches and at the time, there wasn’t a better card on the market.

In case you didn’t read the blurb, the following caught my eye:
MIDI, synthesis) and OpenAL 1.1 (with EAX effects)
Which currently doesn’t exist for Linux (at least good enough for the Windows counterpart)

None of that exists in the Windows world or Linux world without their drivers (EAX only through DirectX but then it’s DirectSound).
Yes, the default Windows drivers for Creative Cards are sub-par (like everything else they do).

My Linux box is still stuck in the Live! series because of lack of drivers and good MIDI synthesis.
I welcome their support and I will be a customer as I will finally be able to port my custom patches over the good side.

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