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		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26681</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a 9800pro, amd 64 2800+ with 512 ram. I have the latest ati drivers and my game runs faster then my windows xp partition for about a minute and a half and then all of a sudden artifacts are all over the place and i cant see anything. The farthest ive gotten in game play was the part where you view your pda. The game seems to slow down at that part and then when i try to escape from thge pda menu everything turns in to artifacts again...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 9800pro, amd 64 2800+ with 512 ram. I have the latest ati drivers and my game runs faster then my windows xp partition for about a minute and a half and then all of a sudden artifacts are all over the place and i cant see anything. The farthest ive gotten in game play was the part where you view your pda. The game seems to slow down at that part and then when i try to escape from thge pda menu everything turns in to artifacts again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pitrz</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26677</link>
		<dc:creator>pitrz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 03:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a 9800pro on nforce2 motherboard, the distro is debian testing, latest fglrx and it is working to a certain level, everything is fine but after some time characters disagree and then after few seconds the app segfaults. Seems like a memory leak to me. Also i noticed that the game runs horribly slow on low details, while on high it seems a little bit faster the on my winxp, i haven&#039;t benchmarked it anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 9800pro on nforce2 motherboard, the distro is debian testing, latest fglrx and it is working to a certain level, everything is fine but after some time characters disagree and then after few seconds the app segfaults. Seems like a memory leak to me. Also i noticed that the game runs horribly slow on low details, while on high it seems a little bit faster the on my winxp, i haven&#8217;t benchmarked it anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter555</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26672</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter555</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a Athlon XP 2400+ running at 2.2 gig with 768 meg of ddr ram and a 9700 ati card with 128 meg ddr. I run this machine as a duel boot with Gentoo as my primary OS and windows xp as the backup one (for playing new games I can&#039;t get to run under gentoo). 

I have the game running under gentoo but it does crash sometimes for no good reason. I&#039;m using the 2.6.9 kernel with gentoo enhancements, xorg and I&#039;m not sure what the vid drivers are (I just did an emerge ati-drivers and it worked).

Appart from the crashes, performance under gentoo was amazing. In windows the thing slowed down to about 2 fps sometimes using 800x600 res and medium quality. Under gentoo it was very smooth at 1024x768 on high quality. However I didn&#039;t notice any difference in quality between the different quality settings. Is it possible that some of these commands are being bypassed by the driver?

Anyway I&#039;m very happy with the way it performs and I hope the occasional crash will be fixed by the next driver update.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Athlon XP 2400+ running at 2.2 gig with 768 meg of ddr ram and a 9700 ati card with 128 meg ddr. I run this machine as a duel boot with Gentoo as my primary OS and windows xp as the backup one (for playing new games I can&#8217;t get to run under gentoo). </p>
<p>I have the game running under gentoo but it does crash sometimes for no good reason. I&#8217;m using the 2.6.9 kernel with gentoo enhancements, xorg and I&#8217;m not sure what the vid drivers are (I just did an emerge ati-drivers and it worked).</p>
<p>Appart from the crashes, performance under gentoo was amazing. In windows the thing slowed down to about 2 fps sometimes using 800&#215;600 res and medium quality. Under gentoo it was very smooth at 1024&#215;768 on high quality. However I didn&#8217;t notice any difference in quality between the different quality settings. Is it possible that some of these commands are being bypassed by the driver?</p>
<p>Anyway I&#8217;m very happy with the way it performs and I hope the occasional crash will be fixed by the next driver update.</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26644</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a friend who is considering a Dell, but the model he wants only comes with an ATI mobillity 9700 128 (nvidia is only sold 64 mb, and not on his model)... Has ATI started supporting the mobillity yet, or not?

What about the Open Source Drivers?  Are they viable yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend who is considering a Dell, but the model he wants only comes with an ATI mobillity 9700 128 (nvidia is only sold 64 mb, and not on his model)&#8230; Has ATI started supporting the mobillity yet, or not?</p>
<p>What about the Open Source Drivers?  Are they viable yet?</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26630</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[does anyone know what gl extensions the ati &quot;driver&quot;
supports?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone know what gl extensions the ati &#8220;driver&#8221;<br />
supports?</p>
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		<title>By: idr</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26622</link>
		<dc:creator>idr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of the reason the open-source drivers are so slow is that portions of the documentation were never made available.  For example, all of the neat HyperZ features and the vertex program hardware are undocumented and unsupported.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the reason the open-source drivers are so slow is that portions of the documentation were never made available.  For example, all of the neat HyperZ features and the vertex program hardware are undocumented and unsupported.</p>
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		<title>By: TTimo</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26621</link>
		<dc:creator>TTimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI, if you are able to get Doom3 running with the DRI drivers, you will be using the ARB path, which is the path with the least rendering features of the 3 that are possible in this case ( ARB2, R200, ARB ).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, if you are able to get Doom3 running with the DRI drivers, you will be using the ARB path, which is the path with the least rendering features of the 3 that are possible in this case ( ARB2, R200, ARB ).</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26615</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I sent the mail to LG, i added that there might be a problem with flashlight. After playing a bit, I found that the flashlight is working fine.
One thing is that the game is very dark, you have to disable TCL with driconf tool (see http://dri.sf.net ) to be able to see something :)
With my 1.2Ghz/Radeon 8500, I think I have an average of 7fps with the demo. As ID software wrote on the game box &quot;1.3Ghz is required&quot;, I thing that with a good CPU, game would be really playable (of course, I use lowest graph quality). Does someone know what I could expect with this config in Windows?

--
Marc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I sent the mail to LG, i added that there might be a problem with flashlight. After playing a bit, I found that the flashlight is working fine.<br />
One thing is that the game is very dark, you have to disable TCL with driconf tool (see <a href="http://dri.sf.net" rel="nofollow">http://dri.sf.net</a> ) to be able to see something :)<br />
With my 1.2Ghz/Radeon 8500, I think I have an average of 7fps with the demo. As ID software wrote on the game box &#8220;1.3Ghz is required&#8221;, I thing that with a good CPU, game would be really playable (of course, I use lowest graph quality). Does someone know what I could expect with this config in Windows?</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Marc</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26614</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m guessing ATI closed their drivers because they were dissatisfied with the work of the open source drivers?  Or did they close the drivers so their linux drivers could not be criticized?

The thing that amazes me is that whenever I ran gentoo with the nvidia drivers on a geforce2 I recieved better performance, at a better quality than in Windows....even running counterstrike through wine, which you&#039;d think would have made it much slower.

Why then are their drivers so much slower?  Have they slowed their drivers on purpose to promote MS Windows?  I guess we will never know because we can&#039;t see the source code, but either way it just makes me uncomfortable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing ATI closed their drivers because they were dissatisfied with the work of the open source drivers?  Or did they close the drivers so their linux drivers could not be criticized?</p>
<p>The thing that amazes me is that whenever I ran gentoo with the nvidia drivers on a geforce2 I recieved better performance, at a better quality than in Windows&#8230;.even running counterstrike through wine, which you&#8217;d think would have made it much slower.</p>
<p>Why then are their drivers so much slower?  Have they slowed their drivers on purpose to promote MS Windows?  I guess we will never know because we can&#8217;t see the source code, but either way it just makes me uncomfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: shaunkreider</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7020/comment-page-1#comment-26613</link>
		<dc:creator>shaunkreider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ATI&#039;s latest drivers work for me, i&#039;m running mandrake 10.1 community edition with a 9700.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATI&#8217;s latest drivers work for me, i&#8217;m running mandrake 10.1 community edition with a 9700.</p>
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