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		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-29397</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear People

I have been given the task of getting links for our websites that have good page rank on the links directories.
In addition we have many categories so your site will be place on an appropriate page. 

If you would like to trade links please send me your website details.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear People</p>
<p>I have been given the task of getting links for our websites that have good page rank on the links directories.<br />
In addition we have many categories so your site will be place on an appropriate page. </p>
<p>If you would like to trade links please send me your website details.<br />
If you are not the right person please pass this on to your webmaster.</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Helen Williams</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-26564</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want stability, price, performance.  Only very mildly care about the source if the binary drivers work well.  Having a vendor that tracks changes to the OpenGL standards and delivers good drivers is more important than having a hackable driver, or even cutting-edge hardware (which is only as good as its drivers)...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want stability, price, performance.  Only very mildly care about the source if the binary drivers work well.  Having a vendor that tracks changes to the OpenGL standards and delivers good drivers is more important than having a hackable driver, or even cutting-edge hardware (which is only as good as its drivers)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-26562</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t Manticore something like this ?  http://icculus.org/manticore/

Doesn&#039;t seem to have been updated since 2002 though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Manticore something like this ?  <a href="http://icculus.org/manticore/" rel="nofollow">http://icculus.org/manticore/</a></p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t seem to have been updated since 2002 though.</p>
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		<title>By: bdove</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-26561</link>
		<dc:creator>bdove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3D is must if you whant to target avarage desktop user. 
But I would be willing to get less 3D performance (compared to nvidia) if  the card would be well supported with open drivers (usually means great stability). ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3D is must if you whant to target avarage desktop user.<br />
But I would be willing to get less 3D performance (compared to nvidia) if  the card would be well supported with open drivers (usually means great stability). </p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-26557</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see several possibilities for this kind of card, specifically in pre-loaded systems where an OK graphics card that requires no hassel 3d is essential. As gamers, most of us will scream for performance, but for your basic wal-mart customer who wants to pick a pre-loaded linux machine off the shelf and have rock-solid stability with no hassel then I see this as a viable option. I&#039;m sure Dell or HP (or whoever is currently marketing pre-installed linux PCs) would love this kind of thing. 

just my 2 cents.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see several possibilities for this kind of card, specifically in pre-loaded systems where an OK graphics card that requires no hassel 3d is essential. As gamers, most of us will scream for performance, but for your basic wal-mart customer who wants to pick a pre-loaded linux machine off the shelf and have rock-solid stability with no hassel then I see this as a viable option. I&#8217;m sure Dell or HP (or whoever is currently marketing pre-installed linux PCs) would love this kind of thing. </p>
<p>just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-26556</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any chance these products might want to work with the community?  They already have hardware, I think they&#039;re just looking for a market.  It&#039;s pretty damn crowded in with ATI &amp; Nvidia out there in the windows world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance these products might want to work with the community?  They already have hardware, I think they&#8217;re just looking for a market.  It&#8217;s pretty damn crowded in with ATI &#038; Nvidia out there in the windows world.</p>
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		<title>By: glokraw</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-26553</link>
		<dc:creator>glokraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d bet on either a. getting it done in India, and or China, or b. adding up in some sensible way the
total number of linux users, who would pay for
a much better driver. Of course, we all pay for
wintel drivers up front when we buy a card, so the
idea of paying again is a bit of nuisance, but if
real dialogue could begin with one or both of the
biggies, discussing needs, features, and costs etc, I think a reasonable price and time frame could be set. I have no clue how much nVidia makes or loses
on linux support, but if it were me, I&#039;d make the
next release at least 10% faster than windoze, demo it as such in public on identicle hardware, and put a $30 sticker on the box...then let the 
chips fall where they may... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d bet on either a. getting it done in India, and or China, or b. adding up in some sensible way the<br />
total number of linux users, who would pay for<br />
a much better driver. Of course, we all pay for<br />
wintel drivers up front when we buy a card, so the<br />
idea of paying again is a bit of nuisance, but if<br />
real dialogue could begin with one or both of the<br />
biggies, discussing needs, features, and costs etc, I think a reasonable price and time frame could be set. I have no clue how much nVidia makes or loses<br />
on linux support, but if it were me, I&#8217;d make the<br />
next release at least 10% faster than windoze, demo it as such in public on identicle hardware, and put a $30 sticker on the box&#8230;then let the<br />
chips fall where they may&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: LBJM</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-26547</link>
		<dc:creator>LBJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(2) How much would you be willing to pay for it?

$300 if it has 3d
(3) How do you feel about the choice of neglecting 3D performance as a priority? How important is 3D performance? In what cases is it not?

I would not be buying this card if you want a good 2d card use matrox.
(4) How much extra would you be willing to pay for excellent 3D performance?

I would not pay extra I would only buy the card if it had 3d faster than others out there under linux.

(5) What&#039;s most important to you, performance, price, or stability?

performance and stability then price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(2) How much would you be willing to pay for it?</p>
<p>$300 if it has 3d<br />
(3) How do you feel about the choice of neglecting 3D performance as a priority? How important is 3D performance? In what cases is it not?</p>
<p>I would not be buying this card if you want a good 2d card use matrox.<br />
(4) How much extra would you be willing to pay for excellent 3D performance?</p>
<p>I would not pay extra I would only buy the card if it had 3d faster than others out there under linux.</p>
<p>(5) What&#8217;s most important to you, performance, price, or stability?</p>
<p>performance and stability then price.</p>
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		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-26546</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Open Source graphics card. Yup. Want it now. Can I have it for Christmas? Can&#039;t wait to test some of my own little optimisations...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open Source graphics card. Yup. Want it now. Can I have it for Christmas? Can&#8217;t wait to test some of my own little optimisations&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bobcat</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/7005/comment-page-1#comment-26545</link>
		<dc:creator>bobcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d buy one if it cost and performed equally well as a nVidia card. But it has to be solid. I do play alot of games and I want speed and reliability. But would I switch to a lower performing card that cost more just because it&#039;s open sourced? -no-
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d buy one if it cost and performed equally well as a nVidia card. But it has to be solid. I do play alot of games and I want speed and reliability. But would I switch to a lower performing card that cost more just because it&#8217;s open sourced? -no-</p>
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