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	<title>Comments on: DOOM III Linux Update</title>
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		<title>By: Xanthian</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-25154</link>
		<dc:creator>Xanthian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s all very well and good for you who will convert to windows XP in the meantime, waiting for the binaries, to be happy.  It&#039;s equally well and good for those of you who can happily wait for the linux binaries all the same.

What I find unbearable, however, is the TOTAL LACK OF SUPPORT FOR ANYTHING IN THIS GAME!!

Firstly, you can&#039;t even get hardware good enough to play with all the frills... somewhat wasteful in a rather dark and non-visible game.

Secondly, I keep my system in dual-boot for a reason; Windows is meant to support games that Linux won&#039;t, or won&#039;t decently enough.  I&#039;ve got UT2004 playing in Linux, though, and Wine will emulate everything else (Diablo II and Warcraft III for starters).  However, even I have a cause for concern; I can&#039;t play Doom 3 EITHER!!

Why, you may ask??  [b]BECAUSE I OWN WINDOWS 98 SE[/b] -- the last version of windows to not kill DOS altogether (the last version of windows not to use NTFS too, if I&#039;m not mistaken, meaning that I could actually install linux afterward).  Not only does Doom 3 NOT support linux, it does NOT support windows, and it is NOT supported in WINE unless you truly possess god-like equipment, and even then you&#039;d be pushing it.  I consciously continue to use 98 because it&#039;s the last remaining version of windows to have DOS.  Apparently DOS was removed for security reasons; what a miracle, then, that 98 is far less susceptible to virus and worm attack than its more recent counterparts, don&#039;t you think?

But enough about Microsoft...

I can&#039;t play doom point 1:
It won&#039;t play on linux natively.

I can&#039;t play doom point 2:
It won&#039;t play under winex because of obscene system resources necessary.

I can&#039;t play doom point 3:
It won&#039;t even play under f***ing windows, either!!

Seriously, ID, what the hell were you thinking?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all very well and good for you who will convert to windows XP in the meantime, waiting for the binaries, to be happy.  It&#8217;s equally well and good for those of you who can happily wait for the linux binaries all the same.</p>
<p>What I find unbearable, however, is the TOTAL LACK OF SUPPORT FOR ANYTHING IN THIS GAME!!</p>
<p>Firstly, you can&#8217;t even get hardware good enough to play with all the frills&#8230; somewhat wasteful in a rather dark and non-visible game.</p>
<p>Secondly, I keep my system in dual-boot for a reason; Windows is meant to support games that Linux won&#8217;t, or won&#8217;t decently enough.  I&#8217;ve got UT2004 playing in Linux, though, and Wine will emulate everything else (Diablo II and Warcraft III for starters).  However, even I have a cause for concern; I can&#8217;t play Doom 3 EITHER!!</p>
<p>Why, you may ask??  [b]BECAUSE I OWN WINDOWS 98 SE[/b] &#8212; the last version of windows to not kill DOS altogether (the last version of windows not to use NTFS too, if I&#8217;m not mistaken, meaning that I could actually install linux afterward).  Not only does Doom 3 NOT support linux, it does NOT support windows, and it is NOT supported in WINE unless you truly possess god-like equipment, and even then you&#8217;d be pushing it.  I consciously continue to use 98 because it&#8217;s the last remaining version of windows to have DOS.  Apparently DOS was removed for security reasons; what a miracle, then, that 98 is far less susceptible to virus and worm attack than its more recent counterparts, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>But enough about Microsoft&#8230;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t play doom point 1:<br />
It won&#8217;t play on linux natively.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t play doom point 2:<br />
It won&#8217;t play under winex because of obscene system resources necessary.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t play doom point 3:<br />
It won&#8217;t even play under f***ing windows, either!!</p>
<p>Seriously, ID, what the hell were you thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: thegoalie</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-25074</link>
		<dc:creator>thegoalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 11:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bitching about if ID will produce a linux binary will not make them go any faster. now in the past they always ported their games to linux. i bought two boxed linux quakes in the past and i had no problems with it. now with epic they put the linux installer on the cd but when you have a problem with the game there is no support from atari which distibutes the game which sucks. i think it going to be the same with doom 3 . Activision has no intention or will ever have intentions to support linux . these distributors dont give a shit about linux gamers becasue there are not enough of them in the marketplace to care . that might change if we shut up and promote linux to the masses and show people that linux isnt for geeks anymore.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bitching about if ID will produce a linux binary will not make them go any faster. now in the past they always ported their games to linux. i bought two boxed linux quakes in the past and i had no problems with it. now with epic they put the linux installer on the cd but when you have a problem with the game there is no support from atari which distibutes the game which sucks. i think it going to be the same with doom 3 . Activision has no intention or will ever have intentions to support linux . these distributors dont give a shit about linux gamers becasue there are not enough of them in the marketplace to care . that might change if we shut up and promote linux to the masses and show people that linux isnt for geeks anymore.  </p>
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		<title>By: God2U</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-25054</link>
		<dc:creator>God2U</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 00:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You monkeys ever hear of WINE? I loaded D3 a mere 20 minutes after the store opened, and it runs great!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You monkeys ever hear of WINE? I loaded D3 a mere 20 minutes after the store opened, and it runs great!</p>
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		<title>By: digitalphant0m</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-24739</link>
		<dc:creator>digitalphant0m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t beleive some of you are going to actually boot up Winder&#039;s to play again, instead of just waiting a few weeks.

And as for all of you complaining about the non-disclosed release date for Linux. Tough shit.

I love love, and I use it exclusivly, but I also realize that there is not a big enough (unfortunatly) market for Linux software for companies to start putting Linux versions on the shelf.

Linux has a way&#039;s to go before the average idiot can buy a Linux distribution off the shelf and be able to use it as easily as a Mac.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, Linux is still the best, but let&#039;s face it, most of us using it are either programmers or systems-administrator.

I myself am just happy ID is willing to consitantly relase quality binaries for Linux, right now, that&#039;s enough for me. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t beleive some of you are going to actually boot up Winder&#8217;s to play again, instead of just waiting a few weeks.</p>
<p>And as for all of you complaining about the non-disclosed release date for Linux. Tough shit.</p>
<p>I love love, and I use it exclusivly, but I also realize that there is not a big enough (unfortunatly) market for Linux software for companies to start putting Linux versions on the shelf.</p>
<p>Linux has a way&#8217;s to go before the average idiot can buy a Linux distribution off the shelf and be able to use it as easily as a Mac.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Linux is still the best, but let&#8217;s face it, most of us using it are either programmers or systems-administrator.</p>
<p>I myself am just happy ID is willing to consitantly relase quality binaries for Linux, right now, that&#8217;s enough for me. </p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-24721</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ordered way back when Doom3 was announced.  I predict it&#039;ll be about a week or two after the release before we get the binaries.  But the cool thing is, I could give a crap.  I&#039;ll get the linux version no matter.

It&#039;s too bad nothing but windows is boxed, but we aren&#039;t the only one&#039;s slighted here, so it ain&#039;t that big a deal.  And if playing a game a week earlier was gonna compel me to use windows, I would never have used linux to begin with.  That&#039;s just dumbass.  Time is relative here, especially since it&#039;s a single player game.  Not a big deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ordered way back when Doom3 was announced.  I predict it&#8217;ll be about a week or two after the release before we get the binaries.  But the cool thing is, I could give a crap.  I&#8217;ll get the linux version no matter.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad nothing but windows is boxed, but we aren&#8217;t the only one&#8217;s slighted here, so it ain&#8217;t that big a deal.  And if playing a game a week earlier was gonna compel me to use windows, I would never have used linux to begin with.  That&#8217;s just dumbass.  Time is relative here, especially since it&#8217;s a single player game.  Not a big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-24719</link>
		<dc:creator></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[CODE]
while( Linux_binarys_not_on_CD() )
{
  wait_for_new_Doom3-box();
}
if (date &lt; 2006)
{
  buy_Doom_3();
}
else
{
  ignore_Doom_3_and_get_UT2006();
}
[/CODE]


Greetings from Happy Coder.

I hope John Carmack understands this. ;)

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while( Linux_binarys_not_on_CD() )<br />
{<br />
  wait_for_new_Doom3-box();<br />
}<br />
if (date < 2006)<br />
{<br />
  buy_Doom_3();<br />
}<br />
else<br />
{<br />
  ignore_Doom_3_and_get_UT2006();<br />
}<br />
[/CODE]</p>
<p>Greetings from Happy Coder.</p>
<p>I hope John Carmack understands this. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-24714</link>
		<dc:creator></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ID invented Linux support.. You guys need to be happy they supply a port at all. The linux gaming community is a spec and is lucky to get a client at all.

I&#039;m willing to bet that most of you cry as if it is your only way to play a game yet you in linux via a boot cd :-#]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ID invented Linux support.. You guys need to be happy they supply a port at all. The linux gaming community is a spec and is lucky to get a client at all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet that most of you cry as if it is your only way to play a game yet you in linux via a boot cd :-#</p>
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		<title>By: DaveALinux</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-24712</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveALinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankly, I&#039;m happy to be getting a client at all.  Bitching about not being on the CD is just petty.  I have no problem waiting under the Linux client is done.  Hell, it means I&#039;ll probably be paying less for the game!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m happy to be getting a client at all.  Bitching about not being on the CD is just petty.  I have no problem waiting under the Linux client is done.  Hell, it means I&#8217;ll probably be paying less for the game!</p>
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		<title>By: Conzar</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-24707</link>
		<dc:creator>Conzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like we can only depend on Epic to provide linux gaming for big hits.  I bought the 2k4 special pack and it was well worth the 40 bucks that I dropped for it.

Can I justify paying 50 bucks for doom3 when their moto is &quot;its down when its down&quot;; however, their game isn&#039;t done.  Its only 1/4 done if you look at the systems its supposed to support.  Xbox, Linux, and Mac will not have a doom 3 game when its released.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like we can only depend on Epic to provide linux gaming for big hits.  I bought the 2k4 special pack and it was well worth the 40 bucks that I dropped for it.</p>
<p>Can I justify paying 50 bucks for doom3 when their moto is &#8220;its down when its down&#8221;; however, their game isn&#8217;t done.  Its only 1/4 done if you look at the systems its supposed to support.  Xbox, Linux, and Mac will not have a doom 3 game when its released.  </p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6737/comment-page-1#comment-24703</link>
		<dc:creator></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if we get into another saga like the long-running agony that was NWN support, then iD will face a backlash they can ill afford. I cannot see why UT2004 can support loki installers on their CDs and iD can&#039;t be bothered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we get into another saga like the long-running agony that was NWN support, then iD will face a backlash they can ill afford. I cannot see why UT2004 can support loki installers on their CDs and iD can&#8217;t be bothered.</p>
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