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		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-30130</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi there

I have been given the task of getting links for our websites that have good page rank on the links directories.
In addition we have many categories so your site will be place on an appropriate page.
If you would like to trade links please send me your website linking details.
Our apologies if you do not wish to take part in a link exchange.

Best Regards, 

Laura Tillman

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there</p>
<p>I have been given the task of getting links for our websites that have good page rank on the links directories.<br />
In addition we have many categories so your site will be place on an appropriate page.<br />
If you would like to trade links please send me your website linking details.<br />
Our apologies if you do not wish to take part in a link exchange.</p>
<p>Best Regards, </p>
<p>Laura Tillman</p>
<p><a href="mailto:laura_tillman@o2.pl">laura_tillman@o2.pl</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gore</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-24504</link>
		<dc:creator>Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This song goes out to all the wine/winex users and developers out there: ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/1999/springbreak99/music/tracked/mo_f4u.zip]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This song goes out to all the wine/winex users and developers out there: <a href="ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/1999/springbreak99/music/tracked/mo_f4u.zip" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/1999/springbreak99/music/tracked/mo_f4u.zip</a></p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-24502</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was running the 3.3.2 release, And i just installed the 4.0 &quot;cedega&quot; and my games all run slower, or don&#039;t run at all.. And i tried some *new* games, and the installer now refuses to run, where as before it did..  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was running the 3.3.2 release, And i just installed the 4.0 &#8220;cedega&#8221; and my games all run slower, or don&#8217;t run at all.. And i tried some *new* games, and the installer now refuses to run, where as before it did..  </p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-24491</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this game can run under Cedega, all politics aside, I will gladly hand-over $15.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this game can run under Cedega, all politics aside, I will gladly hand-over $15.</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-24480</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The games list is here:
http://www.transgaming.com/searchgame.php]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The games list is here:<br />
<a href="http://www.transgaming.com/searchgame.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.transgaming.com/searchgame.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-24479</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we want to see linux increase in market share..
 we PAY to play windows games IN linux
 we have to PAY for this right every MONTH
 we only get &#039;5&#039; games with top rating 
 we get half-baked stuff from the rest
 we see transgaming supporting macOSX
 
 &#039;I&#039; find that illogical to an extreme and I would also conjecture that ONLY those using winex are those trying to bring DOwn LINUX..SO MAYBE you winex supporters are really &#039;windows&#039; users playing with linux for priviledge of trying to stiffle native linux ports...
 
 we all know linux native ports are the ONLY way to go..so unless you want &#039;labled&#039; as a windows supporter and linux TRAITOR..I suggest buying/using ONLY linux games..
 
 chow baby
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we want to see linux increase in market share..<br />
 we PAY to play windows games IN linux<br />
 we have to PAY for this right every MONTH<br />
 we only get &#8217;5&#8242; games with top rating<br />
 we get half-baked stuff from the rest<br />
 we see transgaming supporting macOSX</p>
<p> &#8216;I&#8217; find that illogical to an extreme and I would also conjecture that ONLY those using winex are those trying to bring DOwn LINUX..SO MAYBE you winex supporters are really &#8216;windows&#8217; users playing with linux for priviledge of trying to stiffle native linux ports&#8230;</p>
<p> we all know linux native ports are the ONLY way to go..so unless you want &#8216;labled&#8217; as a windows supporter and linux TRAITOR..I suggest buying/using ONLY linux games..</p>
<p> chow baby</p>
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		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-24468</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instled Painkiler on my 1.8 xp athlon NV2mx400 (fedora core2). When I use old command winex3 - game loads and sudenly craches. When I use &quot;sedega&quot; - game runs like it does on windows duron 900 NV5200fx.  Now I&#039;m feeling like real linuxgamer...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instled Painkiler on my 1.8 xp athlon NV2mx400 (fedora core2). When I use old command winex3 &#8211; game loads and sudenly craches. When I use &#8220;sedega&#8221; &#8211; game runs like it does on windows duron 900 NV5200fx.  Now I&#8217;m feeling like real linuxgamer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chunky</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-24466</link>
		<dc:creator>chunky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the thing. In all fairness, they do release  all the source that they&#039;re allowed to. ie, no macromedia copy-protection shit. But most of their directX changes have been released, as far as I can tell.


&quot;Unfortunately, external factors such as the LGPL relicensing of the Wine code made it impossible for us to maintain that model.&quot;

Gah.

The relicensing of someone else&#039;s codebase SHOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED ANY CODE RELEASES. They /could/ still release all their code, since the stuff they&#039;re working from is still X11-licensed. Their work /could/ be recontributed into the winehq tree, if they give permission, but they can&#039;t take code back from the tree.


One of two things has happened:
1) Their sales figures aren&#039;t yet at 20 thousand, in which case they&#039;re technically releasing more than they promised, already.
2) They made a promise, and failed to keep it.

Because they&#039;re privately owned, they don&#039;t have to release any figures at all, which is why we don&#039;t know.
I&#039;d actually like to think that they&#039;ve not yet got 20k subscribers, and I continue to hope that as a company they die a horrible, painful death as an example to all. But I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll hold my breath, since I&#039;d guess that they&#039;re actually keeping alive through their OSX work. And as long as they&#039;re alive, they&#039;ll continue to fuck linux gaming sideways.

Either way, I don&#039;t know if I even give a fuck anymore.

For as long as people keep giving money to them instead of real linux game companies, you&#039;ll continue to see shitty, low-quality, badly-supported &quot;ports&quot; instead of real ones. I&#039;ve never given them money, and I&#039;d urge you not to either. But frankly, lots of people out there /do/ give them money, so they&#039;re still around.


Of course, all this isn&#039;t to say I support transgaming. I personally find their behaviour offensive to the linux community in general and pretty much reprehensible. But if you&#039;re gonna bash them, at least bash them for what they&#039;re doing wrong, not some whiny ranty half-assed slashdot bullshit.

Gary (-;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing. In all fairness, they do release  all the source that they&#8217;re allowed to. ie, no macromedia copy-protection shit. But most of their directX changes have been released, as far as I can tell.</p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, external factors such as the LGPL relicensing of the Wine code made it impossible for us to maintain that model.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gah.</p>
<p>The relicensing of someone else&#8217;s codebase SHOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED ANY CODE RELEASES. They /could/ still release all their code, since the stuff they&#8217;re working from is still X11-licensed. Their work /could/ be recontributed into the winehq tree, if they give permission, but they can&#8217;t take code back from the tree.</p>
<p>One of two things has happened:<br />
1) Their sales figures aren&#8217;t yet at 20 thousand, in which case they&#8217;re technically releasing more than they promised, already.<br />
2) They made a promise, and failed to keep it.</p>
<p>Because they&#8217;re privately owned, they don&#8217;t have to release any figures at all, which is why we don&#8217;t know.<br />
I&#8217;d actually like to think that they&#8217;ve not yet got 20k subscribers, and I continue to hope that as a company they die a horrible, painful death as an example to all. But I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll hold my breath, since I&#8217;d guess that they&#8217;re actually keeping alive through their OSX work. And as long as they&#8217;re alive, they&#8217;ll continue to fuck linux gaming sideways.</p>
<p>Either way, I don&#8217;t know if I even give a fuck anymore.</p>
<p>For as long as people keep giving money to them instead of real linux game companies, you&#8217;ll continue to see shitty, low-quality, badly-supported &#8220;ports&#8221; instead of real ones. I&#8217;ve never given them money, and I&#8217;d urge you not to either. But frankly, lots of people out there /do/ give them money, so they&#8217;re still around.</p>
<p>Of course, all this isn&#8217;t to say I support transgaming. I personally find their behaviour offensive to the linux community in general and pretty much reprehensible. But if you&#8217;re gonna bash them, at least bash them for what they&#8217;re doing wrong, not some whiny ranty half-assed slashdot bullshit.</p>
<p>Gary (-;</p>
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		<title>By: bobcat</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-24460</link>
		<dc:creator>bobcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To bad they took down the list of games. I was going to cut and paste the list of 5 games (Including Sims and Kohan non-ports) and make a point about their claims of 300 games, yet they only listed 5 or so as being &quot;5&quot;&#039;s (read - &quot;supported&quot;). Oh well, back to Neverwither Nights and Unreal Tourney 2004....... native.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To bad they took down the list of games. I was going to cut and paste the list of 5 games (Including Sims and Kohan non-ports) and make a point about their claims of 300 games, yet they only listed 5 or so as being &#8220;5&#8243;&#8216;s (read &#8211; &#8220;supported&#8221;). Oh well, back to Neverwither Nights and Unreal Tourney 2004&#8230;&#8230;. native.</p>
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		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6700/comment-page-1#comment-24459</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ _I used to subscribe and there was a searchable list of games and how well they worked available. Is it just gone now?_

maybe u don&#039;t need forums anymore :) - tried nitrofamily (serious sam + havoc engine) RUNS PERFECTLY. Small control settings issue, maybe becouse I used copy from windows partition...I think, S4 rocks ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> _I used to subscribe and there was a searchable list of games and how well they worked available. Is it just gone now?_</p>
<p>maybe u don&#8217;t need forums anymore :) &#8211; tried nitrofamily (serious sam + havoc engine) RUNS PERFECTLY. Small control settings issue, maybe becouse I used copy from windows partition&#8230;I think, S4 rocks </p>
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