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		<title>By: JwR</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23377</link>
		<dc:creator>JwR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2004 16:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[   What I find as my main source of criticism for the review is its lack of information about how the game actually plays. The author spends time addressing everything that he finds wrong with the game but in the end negelects to capture what the actual gameplay is like. The author says something to the effect of &quot;it is like syndicate with more confusing menus&quot;, which is pretty much worthless to me and I assume other readers who are not as well versed in gaming. Rather than creating a buglist and handing out scores it would be more worthwhile to focus on the content of the game so that people know what the game is about and whether it is something that may interest them despite its short-comings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>   What I find as my main source of criticism for the review is its lack of information about how the game actually plays. The author spends time addressing everything that he finds wrong with the game but in the end negelects to capture what the actual gameplay is like. The author says something to the effect of &#8220;it is like syndicate with more confusing menus&#8221;, which is pretty much worthless to me and I assume other readers who are not as well versed in gaming. Rather than creating a buglist and handing out scores it would be more worthwhile to focus on the content of the game so that people know what the game is about and whether it is something that may interest them despite its short-comings.</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23365</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2004 08:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed many have disagreed with the review. I agree with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed many have disagreed with the review. I agree with them.</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23364</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2004 05:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s already been said that it&#039;s unfair to review a techdemo, but putting that bit aside, I think the review is clearly underrating this game. 

You mustn&#039;t forget that this is not the product of a company, that this is not a game for the bleedy edge of graphics cards. 

Haven&#039;t you noticed that, compared by today&#039;s open source standards, this game looks fantastic? The music is very impressive as well. And we needn&#039;t mention that even though the gameplay is kind of a &#039;rip off&#039; of X-Com, the concept is proven and works. Better taking that than reinventing the wheel and making a lot of mistakes along the way. They&#039;re going the safer path and there&#039;s nothing whatsoever wrong with that. Subtract some points for originality, but that wouldn&#039;t harm the game at all.

That was one very strange review there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s already been said that it&#8217;s unfair to review a techdemo, but putting that bit aside, I think the review is clearly underrating this game. </p>
<p>You mustn&#8217;t forget that this is not the product of a company, that this is not a game for the bleedy edge of graphics cards. </p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t you noticed that, compared by today&#8217;s open source standards, this game looks fantastic? The music is very impressive as well. And we needn&#8217;t mention that even though the gameplay is kind of a &#8216;rip off&#8217; of X-Com, the concept is proven and works. Better taking that than reinventing the wheel and making a lot of mistakes along the way. They&#8217;re going the safer path and there&#8217;s nothing whatsoever wrong with that. Subtract some points for originality, but that wouldn&#8217;t harm the game at all.</p>
<p>That was one very strange review there.</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23353</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2004 15:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just have to ask:
Why didn&#039;t the reviewer *COMPILE* the source code to the tech demo?

I didn&#039;t really have a choice in the matter, what with running PPC/Linux on an iBook to play it, but I had like a 5 minute issue with fixing the makefiles to handle a ppc compile, and copying my new improved binaries into the unzipped game dir, and it worked flawlessly.

Can&#039;t say I tried sound though, what with having my laptop muted most of the time anyway, but it turned out to be surprisingly enjoyable for a tech demo.

-- vranash]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to ask:<br />
Why didn&#8217;t the reviewer *COMPILE* the source code to the tech demo?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really have a choice in the matter, what with running PPC/Linux on an iBook to play it, but I had like a 5 minute issue with fixing the makefiles to handle a ppc compile, and copying my new improved binaries into the unzipped game dir, and it worked flawlessly.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say I tried sound though, what with having my laptop muted most of the time anyway, but it turned out to be surprisingly enjoyable for a tech demo.</p>
<p>&#8211; vranash</p>
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		<title>By: leinir</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23342</link>
		<dc:creator>leinir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right people, go read on the blurb for this review: It specifically says that it was made after repeated e-mails requesting a review of the game. They give you what you ask, and you start bitching. Now, take a step back and tell me, how mature does that seem to you? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right people, go read on the blurb for this review: It specifically says that it was made after repeated e-mails requesting a review of the game. They give you what you ask, and you start bitching. Now, take a step back and tell me, how mature does that seem to you? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23340</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2004 06:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This &quot;review&quot; really is really a poor judgment on behalf of LinuxGames.com. As has been pointed out repeatedly in this thread, the recent alpha release of UFO: Alien Invasion was intended as a Technical Demo, and at no time should have been subject to the same reviewing standards afforded to a commercial, officially released or &quot;v1.0&quot; game.  
 
By all means, discussion, opinion, dissertation, and constructive criticism of the Technical Demo ought to be promoted. But please don&#039;t overlook the fact that the UFO developers are offering us an inside look at their concept-in-development, and any discussion of the project this early on ought to focus primarily on the potential of the game. If this cannot be done, then I strongly believe that it ought not to be &quot;reviewed&quot; or editorialised at all. 
 
LinuxGames.com: please live up to that promised of &quot;For the People&quot; and support the Linux gaming community rather than unfairly judging it. These types of pre-release, alpha, or early beta games need to be either &quot;previewed&quot; or written as a &quot;first look&quot; article. Absolutely no good comes from needless or unfair negative PR. These games need to be nurtured and promoted first, lest they die out -- and only once the community has nurtured them to stable, mature, or advance releases should we begin to  &quot;review&quot; them.  
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;review&#8221; really is really a poor judgment on behalf of LinuxGames.com. As has been pointed out repeatedly in this thread, the recent alpha release of UFO: Alien Invasion was intended as a Technical Demo, and at no time should have been subject to the same reviewing standards afforded to a commercial, officially released or &#8220;v1.0&#8243; game.  </p>
<p>By all means, discussion, opinion, dissertation, and constructive criticism of the Technical Demo ought to be promoted. But please don&#8217;t overlook the fact that the UFO developers are offering us an inside look at their concept-in-development, and any discussion of the project this early on ought to focus primarily on the potential of the game. If this cannot be done, then I strongly believe that it ought not to be &#8220;reviewed&#8221; or editorialised at all. </p>
<p>LinuxGames.com: please live up to that promised of &#8220;For the People&#8221; and support the Linux gaming community rather than unfairly judging it. These types of pre-release, alpha, or early beta games need to be either &#8220;previewed&#8221; or written as a &#8220;first look&#8221; article. Absolutely no good comes from needless or unfair negative PR. These games need to be nurtured and promoted first, lest they die out &#8212; and only once the community has nurtured them to stable, mature, or advance releases should we begin to  &#8220;review&#8221; them.  </p>
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		<title>By: </title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23339</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2004 17:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, this is a technical demo, you cannot rate the &quot;replay&quot;. There are three maps to demonstarte the modified q2 engine.

The music is great by the way. Better than in some commercial games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this is a technical demo, you cannot rate the &#8220;replay&#8221;. There are three maps to demonstarte the modified q2 engine.</p>
<p>The music is great by the way. Better than in some commercial games.</p>
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		<title>By: theoddone33</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23335</link>
		<dc:creator>theoddone33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone who likes this game got all their thugs together to post negative comments.  Only people affiliated with the project would be that defensive.  Good job kids, you showed us all.

I don&#039;t even care about the review...  I read it and it didn&#039;t sound as negative as you all think.  You guys act like the man just set your mother on fire.

Also, it&#039;s great to see people assuming that a &quot;crappy linux install&quot; or a &quot;misconfigured system&quot; is the cause of the problems the reviewer had with the game.  Here is some news for you... you&#039;d better be [b]absolutely positive[/b] that the problem is a misconfigured install before releasing anything.  Assuming things is never a good practice for people who want to put out a quality game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone who likes this game got all their thugs together to post negative comments.  Only people affiliated with the project would be that defensive.  Good job kids, you showed us all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even care about the review&#8230;  I read it and it didn&#8217;t sound as negative as you all think.  You guys act like the man just set your mother on fire.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s great to see people assuming that a &#8220;crappy linux install&#8221; or a &#8220;misconfigured system&#8221; is the cause of the problems the reviewer had with the game.  Here is some news for you&#8230; you&#8217;d better be [b]absolutely positive[/b] that the problem is a misconfigured install before releasing anything.  Assuming things is never a good practice for people who want to put out a quality game.</p>
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		<title>By: cburke</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23332</link>
		<dc:creator>cburke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2004 08:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But seriously, it is obviously too early to give the game a [i]review[/i].  I mean, you&#039;re essentially criticizing the game for being in early stages of development.  That&#039;s not only unfair, it is not useful either unless you intend to review the game every time they have a major release.  Since most of your complaints are an artifact of this being an [i]alpha tech demo[/i], how are we, the readers of your review, supposed to know if the game is worth trying when [i]beta 0.1[/i] or whatever comes out?  Will there be another review titled &quot;All the stuff I complained about before is gone&quot; or &quot;Still a tech demo&quot; depending?

I appreciate Linuxgames doing reviews of games that otherwise may not get reviewed.  And I appreciate that it can be hard to find Linux games that are at version 1.anything. :)  But at least try to stick to games that claim to be somewhat functionally complete. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But seriously, it is obviously too early to give the game a [i]review[/i].  I mean, you&#8217;re essentially criticizing the game for being in early stages of development.  That&#8217;s not only unfair, it is not useful either unless you intend to review the game every time they have a major release.  Since most of your complaints are an artifact of this being an [i]alpha tech demo[/i], how are we, the readers of your review, supposed to know if the game is worth trying when [i]beta 0.1[/i] or whatever comes out?  Will there be another review titled &#8220;All the stuff I complained about before is gone&#8221; or &#8220;Still a tech demo&#8221; depending?</p>
<p>I appreciate Linuxgames doing reviews of games that otherwise may not get reviewed.  And I appreciate that it can be hard to find Linux games that are at version 1.anything. :)  But at least try to stick to games that claim to be somewhat functionally complete. </p>
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		<title>By: magnwa</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/6525/comment-page-1#comment-23331</link>
		<dc:creator>magnwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2004 06:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What game?  UFO Invasion hasn&#039;t released a game yet, they&#039;ve released an alpha tech demo.  That means you guys are suppose to do a preview of the game, not a full featured review.  It&#039;s not time to do a review, and if you keep putting out crap reviews like that, nobody will ever release early, release often, for fear of getting bashed by people who know very little.  

Honestly, this site has been very poor for the past few years, and this doesn&#039;t raise the quality one bit.  It wasn&#039;t even a full page review, and to be quite honest, most of the problems experienced by the reviewer have more to do with his install of linux than with UFO: AI issues.

Jarrod
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What game?  UFO Invasion hasn&#8217;t released a game yet, they&#8217;ve released an alpha tech demo.  That means you guys are suppose to do a preview of the game, not a full featured review.  It&#8217;s not time to do a review, and if you keep putting out crap reviews like that, nobody will ever release early, release often, for fear of getting bashed by people who know very little.  </p>
<p>Honestly, this site has been very poor for the past few years, and this doesn&#8217;t raise the quality one bit.  It wasn&#8217;t even a full page review, and to be quite honest, most of the problems experienced by the reviewer have more to do with his install of linux than with UFO: AI issues.</p>
<p>Jarrod</p>
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