WineX 3.2, etc.
November 18th, 2003 by AlkiniTransGaming put out a press release announcing the availibility of WineX 3.2 which adds support for, among other things, Max Payne 2. Looking through the rest of their site, I see that they’ve added some people to their board of directors, launched TransGaming.org (a “community-oriented site”), and released a development status / voting report. My question to you is this: do you think we at LG should be following WineX news more carefully than we are?
November 18th, 2003 at 11:30 am
[q]“Our groundbreaking portability development continues to keep pace with the industry’s recent and most challenging games written for Windows,” remarks Peter Hunnisett, Manager of TransGaming’s Linux Development Team. “Dynamic sound, rich graphics and riveting game play are matched and, in some instances, surpassed with our WineX technology.”[/q]
Did you catch that? The game under WineX can surpass the original version. Who woulda thunk it?
November 18th, 2003 at 12:13 pm
“My question to you is this: do you think we at LG should be following WineX news more carefully than we are?”
Without getting too “political” on the subject, I personally don’t particularly care for WineX. I understand that WineX has its purposes, but I feel that those that are interested in the product already have sufficient coverage from the Transgaming site and community pages.
I don’t know. I guess that there is nothing wrong with extra news that is related to Linux gaming, but I must admit that this is the first time in a while that I’ve even bothered to click on a link related to WineX news.
November 18th, 2003 at 12:22 pm
Putt Putt and that sort of games will most likely never be published for linux, so i use wineX for this purpose. In no way do I ignore the linux offerings for kids, (tuxpaint, gcompris to name a couple), but I can’t go up to a shelf and buy a game for my daughter for linux. Maybe Mr. Simms should look into this type of game.
J
November 18th, 2003 at 12:39 pm
welcome my new emulation masters.
November 18th, 2003 at 1:33 pm
I’m not a die hard fan of winex at all, but i do use it. I never go to their site to read news or the forums because it simply doesn’t interest me enough. I would like it if linux Games covered major news about winex, such as this new release.
November 18th, 2003 at 2:58 pm
not too bothered either way, nice to see when new games get supported though.
November 18th, 2003 at 3:58 pm
Has anybody got Stronghold to run on winex.
I got it to run once on a version 2.something. But after 3.x it did not work anymore.
Hans J
November 18th, 2003 at 4:20 pm
It already gets more coverage than any other piece of software.
November 18th, 2003 at 4:56 pm
linuxgames should be just that..’linux-games’ and not something that ‘emulates’ linux games..
let those that dont mind emulation and enforcing developers to ‘keep ahead with non-cross platform development’, use winex site themselves.
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November 18th, 2003 at 5:40 pm
Much rather have a native port, but if it’s not going to get one that winex can be handy.
November 18th, 2003 at 5:46 pm
Wine Is NOT an Emulator
Too many users still do not get that. Repeat it over and over until you understand it.
Whether it is Wine, Codeweavers, or WineX, you ARE NOT USING AN EMULATOR.
You are running a Windows application in Linux using native Linux software.
I support both Linux native games and games that play nicely with Wine.
Both are paths away from Microsoft.
November 18th, 2003 at 6:40 pm
wine Is Naturally an Emulator
November 18th, 2003 at 6:57 pm
I read on UseNet about someone running Wine on their DEC Alpha. Can anyone comment on this? I have an Alpha system in front of me most of the day and despite the entertainment abilities I would find it most fortunate to be aware of how to run a x86-compiled Wine or WineX on my Alpha.
Anyone had any success? And when are those few developers out there going to stop compiling applications for only x86 when they will run fine and well on Alpha? I know many people that have Alpha AXP architecture computing equipment that would like to know howto run WineX upon their Alpha. Do we use em86 or what? I don’t think a BOCHS environment is a solution; something more native, and higher-performing, is desired. Thanks to anyon that responds with helpful information. :D
November 18th, 2003 at 7:56 pm
I don’t really care about WineX in the day to day stuff. I think the current level of coverage is appropriate and sufficient. Tell us when significant things happen, like major shifts in direction, major new releases, new projects undertaken by the TG folks, but I don’t care about whether some new Windows game now works under WineX. If I want that information, I can get it from the TG site. Treat it as you do Wine.
November 18th, 2003 at 8:08 pm
WineX allows me to run games I wouldn’t have otherwise…since I don’t have Windows installed on any of my machines.
If others don’t want to read WineX — or even Wine — news, they don’t have to.
I’m hungry for any news about Linux gaming.
November 18th, 2003 at 9:43 pm
LG has done a fine job of keeping up to date on major news regarding both Wine and WineX. However, LG does not inform readers of every minor development in the Wine project. Seems to me that if more attention were going to be paid to the development of WineX, then more attention should be paid to the development of Wine as well.
November 18th, 2003 at 10:27 pm
Counter Strike on a PIII 550Mhz + Win98 and a Geforce2Gts runs just perfet with skined weapons, while rebooting and using winex, the framete is not acceptable, damn too slow. is basicaly unplayable. therefore I WANT NATIVE STUFF FOR MY OS! is retarded to use an app that makes yor system ruuns like if it was 1/3 of its original speed.
November 19th, 2003 at 4:45 am
What is all the fuzz about winex, it hardly runs any direct3d games (max payne 2, gta3 and a few older games) and opengl games (the bulk of the games working with winex) run better with normal wine….
I always was afraid that transgaming would hurt native linux gaming, but with the tiny amount of games that run only on winex and not on wine (and that after years of winex development) I still feel transgaming has failed to deliver so the only news on winex that might be interesting would be next direct3d game the get working
November 19th, 2003 at 10:47 am
2 days ago I downloaded a demo of Codeweavers CrossOver Office because I have an old ‘copy’ of Photoshop 5 I wanted to try out under Linux, and it worked. Ok installing was easy enough but I had to kill the installation a few times to get it installed correctly, it runs rather slowly, is old software and emulation feels a bit gimmicky (a novelty), but hey I have a professional graphics application that is usable to a degree. I wouldn’t though consider doing the same thing with games because to be honest there’s no way they can be as fluid and stable as proper native games and neither do I want my machine clogged up with crap Windblows code either. Native games or nothing.
November 19th, 2003 at 5:43 pm
I dont see any real problem with Winex or Wine news. I dont personally support Winex, but I dont have any issues with playing with wine every once in a while. I dont go out and buy games with the intention of playing them in linux if they are win32 only. Im always interested to know when popular software puts out an update that could potentially allow me to have more fun on my box.
November 19th, 2003 at 8:20 pm
Will the real definition of ‘emulation’ please stand up?
To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system.
November 21st, 2003 at 9:53 am
I”ve tried winex on one of my favorite games and while it installs just fine…the graphics are nasty ( discolored horribly) and gameplay is VERY slow compared to windows counterpart..
so it would seem my experience is similar to many others where the hype does NOT meet the challenge of real experience..
so for me…as a linux gaming fan..its clear one choices remains which is concentrating on native games and let windows users deal with their own…
if we flat start ‘backing’ NATIVE linux games utterly dont you think that would send a clear message to game developers??..instead of the one we’re sending now where using emulation is a clear message to tell them to continue developing windows binaries ???
I do Understand that ‘some’ people miss playing ‘some’ games that doens’t work in linux..but maybe if those same people just shift their priorities and just ‘try’ whats natively available for linux they might be pleasantly surprised and side effect will be many more to come from the result of a developer community noticing us much more.
cya
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November 24th, 2003 at 8:45 am
i think it comes down to whether you want to be a source for information about gaming under linux, or whether you want to exert whatever power/influence linuxgames.com has to advance gaming under linux.
winex is a part of gaming under linux. covering it makes you a more credible source for info about gaming under linux.
winex is arguably hurting native linux gaming apps. avoiding coverage of it can, in theory, make native linux gaming more apparent to end users, thereby improving the state of gaming in linux in general.
ralph hogaboom
November 24th, 2003 at 8:53 am
my personal belief is that you should cover winex. as a casual gamer, i needed winex to move from a primary windows desktop to a primary linux desktop. i didn’t want to do it without grand theft auto 3. so i subscribed for three months. and you know what? after i had gta3 running under linux, without X (for speed), i started looking at what else (besides tuxracer) linux gaming has to offer. winex isn’t fantastic, but it’s good enough to have been a help for me to get to linux.
i hardly use it anymore, but it has a place as a tool in a linux gamer’s toolbox for playing games. it’s part of gaming in linux — therefore, i think it should be covered.
ralph hogaboom
December 9th, 2003 at 5:53 pm
I was thinking of emulating linux running on top of windows. Do you think that will help us get more native linux games? Eh, maybe not a great idea. Hmm, I wonder why…