Transgaming Interview @ DesktopLinux.com
March 5th, 2003 by AlkiniDesktopLinux.com has posted an interview titledTransGaming gives Linuxgame. They interview Gavriel State, CEO and founder of News Source: LT
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March 5th, 2003 at 1:11 pm
Overall, I had a good laugh. The guy doesnt seem, or doesnt want to realise how much he hurts the linux gaming community.
Never did he mention native ports. Without native ports, linux gaming dies, simple as that.
Worth a post in the talkback section too.
March 5th, 2003 at 1:51 pm
Now I remember these guys… they’re the same dorks that had that “wInedependence Day” think on July 4 last year. Gave out free copies of Lindows as a prize.
When I stumbled across this site I was already of the opinion that there are no general Linux news sites worth my time. DTL completely confirmed that.
March 5th, 2003 at 2:22 pm
than any bastardised version these bozo’s product.
In fact I just did
March 5th, 2003 at 3:47 pm
Have been asking them questions about the future in their forum. If they are really serious about Linux in the future…so far one response saying what is native and that perhaps Winelib is native, another person saying OpenGL is not native to Linux (which I think misses the point, its a spec…).
StarTux
March 5th, 2003 at 5:37 pm
How dare he say that WineX is “unique”? It’s based on Wine is it not?
He also says that they “participate and contribute to the Wine and ReWind projects”. When was this? In what way?
March 5th, 2003 at 6:33 pm
The fact that the winex codepath requires multiple layers of indirection does argue against this claim. Example: many games already cache D3D state, so now winex is doing the same with OpenGL state. There are also the weird situations where the current D3D state does not have a good fit with the available OpenGL states. You can fix this up tremendously in the application’s source code directly, and using winex is not going to help. :) Score another point for ports! Native games: 113, Transgaming Doublespeak: -293.074
March 5th, 2003 at 6:48 pm
i cant believe he didnt mention that winex owes their livilhood to the original wine. also, the mentioning that they started xandros and once that was on its way, went on to start transgaming … these are programmers guys, they’re greedy bussinessmen. i wonder what they’ll start up after transgaming. it is my sincere wish that they go under, not only b/c they dont give credit where it’s due, but also because of the hurting of native ports. loki 4ever :-)
March 5th, 2003 at 8:06 pm
I think that in the short term winex could be dangerous to companies like LGP who are trying to port games. However, i think that winex is absolutely necessary immediately for gaming on Linux. Many of my gaming friends – at least half – are interested in Linux and would love to use and learn it, but for the games. Some of them are starting in spite of it, but much later than they otherwise would have. I think ultimately winex will be great for Linux gamers. Winex is a great temporary solution. If Linux gamers were to represent, say 10% of the market, then comapnies would be less interested in winex and more excited about native ports for sales. But until then we get scraps. As other people have said here, at that time the companies will want to support their Linux ports, and hopefully like Bioware will code with cross platform in mind at the start – but unlike Bioware keep the ports up to date with each other.
LGP, I’m happy with what you do – unfortunately none of the games you’ve ported yet interest me :( Lokigames said once I think that people shouldn’t buy their games just to support their company – I would if I had the spare money, but unfortunately I don’t. So I can only afford to purchase the games that my friends play, or else I’m left in the dark.
I don’t agree with Gavriel that gaming is where the desktop is won. That is ridiculous. The victory will first be won in businesses. Once we do that, games will naturally follow. Games are the result, not the reason. Since when is Grandma going to say, “Yes, Linux looks nice, but does it run Half-Life?”. Or a business exec saying “I need Warcraft 3 running on our new Linux desktop infrastructure before the next meeting”. Whether or not people enjoy writing documents, that’s what most computers will be used for. I think he’s lifted himself up to a loftier position than transgaming is really in.
March 6th, 2003 at 2:35 am
.. I can’t because I cannot find a shop that sells Linux games.
I have already bought 8 Linux games from Tuxgames, but now that I want is to make out a cheque in order to purchase safely, I scarre to give the informations of my credit card through internet.
I have already contacted Tuxgames fot that : As I am living in France, I have to pay in Euro, but Tuxgames does not accept cheque in Euro. Sad, because I wanted to pay for 300 Euros In games (i.e. 330$), but Tuxgames did not accept.
So I don’t know what to do: In France Linux is not very popular : You can’t find any software in public Market, Linux represents only 0.3% of Web Surfers, and Microsoft is well implented : That is why sellers don’t want to sell Linux softwares and Linux Games
Is there any hope to pay Tuxgames with Euro Cheque, or do I have to wait to find Linux games in public Market ? I don’t know…
March 6th, 2003 at 4:46 am
After reading the posts here I would have to ask why in fact WineX/playing win32 games on Linux is actually worth doing.
For starters a subscription to Transgaming is $5 USD a month with a minimum of 3 months. Well a quick check on http://www.ebay.co.uk has thrown up winXP pro for as little as £10 GBP / $15 USD/EUR. So why play ‘emulated’ games when you could be playing them perfectly on their intended platform?
I personally think that WineX is associated with stubborn people who categorically WILL NOT install a Microsoft OS on their computer (I don’t use WineX so I am assuming you don’t need a copy of Windows for the DLLs). After all with winXP pro for £10 it couldn’t possibly be a budgetary consideration.
Looking at the Transgaming site it looks very colourful and pretty with bold statements like “The Kohan RTS Series on Linux” and “Play Warcraft III with WineX Today”. This leads me to suggest that some people are most likely being effectively ‘marketed’.
Regards
March 6th, 2003 at 12:31 pm
…the trolls. *sob!*
Topic – # of comments;
Transgaming Interview – 38
O’Reilly on FreeSCI – 0
OpenGL ES Spec – 13
XFree86 4.3.0 – 43
Official NWN Forum – 3
Version Updates – 0
OpenGL Shading Language – 9
LGP Development Project – 8
NeverWinter Nights – 61
FreeCNC interview – 6 …
March 6th, 2003 at 8:43 pm
I’m a statistic number!
I’m the guy that bought a copy of Rune from Tuxgames in Mexico :)
now this is something important, when I bought Rune about a year ago it was kinda by accident, what I really wanted to buy was IceWind Dale thru the internet, just because I had never bought nothing from the internet and wanted to see if it was possible to do it from my location, BUT many (if not all) websites IN the USA, that sell stuff online(amazon, BestBuy etc.) doesn’t sell software to Mexico due to customs restrictions of some sort, every form that I tried to fill, answered with an error that they cannot ship a product at “X” price(about US$30.00), anyway, to make the story shorter, http://www.tuxgames.com did accepted my location and just for the sake of make it fail I bought TWO games about US$60.00 in total, Rune arrived about 3+ months later. and the other game took about 2 or 3 months more , because the shipment was lost or something, I had to e-mail tuxgames to ask them about my purchase, and they were really polite and all and finally the other package arrived.
SO, how the FUCK are u guys going to sell to China or Cuba or whatever, if (for example ) they have blocked that possibility with a fucking country that us glued to yours? Loki was an American company right? and I had to buy it from Tuxgames(UK) not because it was a linux game, but because it seems that UK companies can and are willing to sell software to Mexico. Now, tuxgames does have the ability to ship software to China? that would be interesting to know.
PS
Mexican online companies that sell games, have old and very few titles. mainly because they are translated to Spanish.
March 7th, 2003 at 1:28 pm
In an ideal world, transgaming would focus on backward compatibility. Bring OLD games to linux, and let porting houses bring recent games.
Let us play old classics like Diablo 1, Alice, Rage of Mages. Beside, older implementations of directx *should* be easier to reverse engineer right?
I have a pile of old windows games I can’t use anymore, but now I buy only native ports, so it would the best of both worlds for me. And I’m sure a lot of people would like to be able to play their old games again… right now with winex it’s just not possible.