RTCW under WineX
November 25th, 2001 by MarvTrac has sent in 4 screenshots of RTCW under WineX CVS from 20011122. WineX is a derivative of the Wine project from Transgaming.
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November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Give us the real client instead! and I will buy this great game!
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
I guess WineX is getting better and better every day. I’m waiting for the release of the prepackage binary files. They are adding in a lot of goodies from what I seen on the TG website.
Besides I don’t see nothing wrong with him using WineX for the time being into the native binary is release… Then again that’s just me folks!
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Is it just me or does this show the level of excellence of the RTCW code?
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
…has no doubt spurred TTimo on to get that native port out quicker. Not to mention driving dozens of publishing houses to start making their games available on Linux.
I hope you folks that cheer on Transgaming and the WINE effort as much as you do are considering the ramifications of successes. (Hint: You aren’t convincing anyone that matters that Linux is a viable alternative system for the desktop. Indeed it is quite the opposite: that Windows is so indispensible that even Linux users will go to great lengths to get that software working on their own systems.)
Consider living by this: if you want games on Linux, play the ones that exist, and encourage those that develop them. Swear off all Windows gaming. In the meantime, get a console if you [i]must[/i] play games and Linux doesn’t do the job for you.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
I’ve never tried playing a game under Wine – what kind of performace hit do you take? Is gameplay as smooth and responsive as a native port? What about memory consumption? Do you get glitches, lockups, or anything else of the kind?
Personally, I don’t think emulation is the way to go, mostly for the same reasons as the other posters have put forward. But I have yet to hear someone say “emulation with Wine is bad because speed/stability/consistency sucks.” Is the gaming experience as satisfactory through emulation as a native port?
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
“This game works fine under wineX – ttimo, don’t bother completing the port, we don’t need one”
Well done. Once again, I hope all the wine-lovers out there are pleased with themselves.
Gary
PS Why is this getting mentioned, while there are more screenies of SSam under linux [NATIVE] available, that’s _not_ getting headlines?
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
[br] It isn’t native! [br]Tobasco sauce sooths my pain now!
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Remember OS/2. They tried the “Compatibility” route too. and DR DOS as well for that matter.
Look where it got them.
Once Transgaming has sucked Linux development dollars dry, Microsoft will lift their little pinky and break Direct X so future games won’t work under Linux.
I agree with Jebus. Wine legitimizes Windows and is a crutch for Linux that Linux doesn’t need.
Play LINUX games. BUY Linux games. Accept nothing less.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
And I not understand why use winex when id is working (and soon releasing) on the linux binaries (I am waiting for it).
Anyway, to all which purchase the game to play under Linux and wine: remember to make id know which OS you use, registering with a great LINUX written on the card.
This way, they look in wonder how many linux gamers are out here.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
I guess even though Transgaming doesn’t target games with native ports in the works, their users do. Oh well, let all the wine people play it under wine and we’ll all wait a couple weeks to play it natively. If they want to miss out, it’s their business.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Dont worry guys i have just written a very crappy game i call moon lander ( you may have heard of it but i made it 3d ) in directx because my course demands it (this is probablly going to change soon.)…
I will port my incredibly crappy game to linux… :) it sux though i think… but its still kinda fun.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Dont worry guys i have just written a very crappy game i call moon lander ( you may have heard of it but i made it 3d ) in directx because my course demands it (this is probablly going to change soon.)…
I will port my incredibly crappy game to linux… :) it sux though i think… but its still kinda fun.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Her Windows-only educational game titles (Dorling Kindersley in particular, whatever they’re called today) make her pine for Windows, and her sister likes Publisher. If I can make those apps work under Linux, it keeps her happily using it until something better comes along, and I don’t have to install and maintain a bug-happy resource-hogging network-clagging security risk on my home LAN.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
IMHO the war is not between wine and native linux games, but a win98 on other partition and linux gaming. Windows is stable enough to store my high score table. And while only few games exists on linux and this games are very expensive, linux needs wine.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
I bootet up my windows partition because i would like to see the intro movie without the sound stuttering… I also loaded my savegame to see how the game ran.
And it ran BAD. In linux I had every grafic-option on in 800×600 16 bit, but in windows I had to remoove a lot of grafics just to get a framerate that was playable.
I also tried to install latest drivers but it didn’t help.
I haven’t done any benchmarks, because it would be silly when the binaries are just around the corner.
But at the moment I predict that it will run far better in linux.
Anyone else noticed this compared to win2000/xp or is it just win98 se that is getting old?
//lean
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Will id release binaries the same way they did with quake3? (ppl who bought win vers don’t have to buy the linux ver) or will they only sell it?
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
I took home the latest wine 20011126 and recompiled it with opengl support. Qute good preformance, the only downsides was the bad sound support, on multiplay the sound was like 5khz and on singleplay nothing at all.
Of course a Linux binary will be a lot better, faster and full sound.
Wine is good for games thats not coming for Linux, but I hope there would be a way to have a fake graphicscard, so that you can play games like Diablo 2.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Why not?
It will sure give the game developer more money to develop even more games?
If people don’t buy Windos Games just to create a heads up for the game developers, will those game developers have enough money to port the games (that fewer poeple would buy)?
Wouldn’t that just create a new chicken-n-egg senario!
Cheers
M
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
The biggest problem with linux is that it isnt windows.
In case you couldnt tell I am being sarcastic
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
it seems to me that even if all of us were to buy the linux version from tuxgames, there probably still wouldn’t be financial incentive for developers to port games to linux. what wine allows me to do, is to get rid of my windows partition(which is only there for games). i think you’ll all agree that playing native linux games is better than running them through wine, and therefore, once the number of people running linux and not windows(because they have wine for gaming), then it may become financially viable to sell native linux games.
i’m sure if there are any flaws in my logic, you will all point them out, so i’ll leave it at that.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Not trying to troll or flame, but…
JESUS CREEPING SHIT, when was the last time ANY of you got LAID, or took a WALK or drank a beer or did something that wasn’t sit around and snitch about something so petty?
Bottom line: someone accomplished something. Yay. Tomorrow, someone else will accomplish something else. Yay.
We could put together hundreds of comments about whether Wine is a good thing for Linux, when five years from now, it’ll all be moot, and we’ll all wish we had this time back to use on something that actually MATTERS.
Or else we can go have a damned life, and realize it’s all supposed to be FUN, and that’s why we play games in the first place, and JESUS is it really worth it to get all freaked out about platform wars when we might get hit by a bus tomorrow afternoon?
In fact, I’m done. Beer and girlfriend are calling. G’night, all y’all. I recommend the power button and the front door.
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
What Linux gaming really needs is more gamers who pay for their software. Of course it helps if a small bunch buys more and more games, but it’s not a long term solution. The Linux gaming community needs to grow rapidly to establish the market.
Maybe Linux can gain lots of more edge by the development of sound, graphics, interfaces and standards. However, it is not the critical issue as I see it. Linux is a strong operating system (but why, it might not be that easy to demonstrate :) and it has been proven that it, technically and otherwise, is a good gaming platform.
What we’d need is getting the word out, and more publicity for Linux gaming. Basically, Linux advocacy, in general and as a gaming platform. I think there are solid reasons to choose Linux as a gaming platform, or a generic platform for home use. We need to make these known. People should quit flaming and discussing secondary issues, sit down, think, organize a marketing plan and pull it through.
If the Loki project was a failure, it was because Linux gamers didn’t bring in all their gaming friends from other platforms.
PS. Anybody going to start a Linux-oriented RtCW/Sims/whatever clan?
Varis
http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
… when there’s a native port at http://ftp.idsoftware.com
have fun *g*
Fry
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Crappy Remake
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
First of all, just to piss most of you people off, I you are not playing Q3A, you are not living life. *me hides*
Here is an interesting thought. The XBox uses the win2k kernel (on rom) and a version of DirectX. What do you think would happen if one day wine[x] could play xbox games?
I own [i]many[/i] playstation games. I like playing old games and knowing that I will be able to do so in the future. I am happy that the PS2 can play PS1 games, and that there is a linux PSX emu activly being worked on. This gives me hope that in ten years when the PSX and PS2 are long gone I will still be able to blow the dust off of my PSX disk and play the game.
I have mixed feelings about wine. I purchase native Linux ports whenever possible and I do beleive that winex can have a detrimental effect on getting native ports. But I also like the idea that an old windows game will work for me five years from now when it won’t under windows 2006x.
If Loki’s sales were much better and Linux users were more willing to purchase (and pay more for) native ports, winex would be a non-issue. Regardless, the whole discussion is moot aside from feeling good about stating why winex is good or bad: The development of winex is going to continue. [b]When[/b] gaming under linux takes off, the disucussion will then be about how much winex/Loki/Your Favorite Opensource Game/Windows XP Licencing/etc.. contributed to that end result.
Now go play Q3A!
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Someone can say me if this is the record here at linuxgames or what?
Just curious…
November 30th, -0001 at 12:00 am
Is there catch the chicken, catch the Nazi, or rescue Albert in RTCW? Haven’t ran it yet. Busy working for food. :(