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	<title>Comments on: Alice</title>
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	<description>Embrace your Inner Penguin</description>
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		<title>By: sparr</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/10309/comment-page-1#comment-328386</link>
		<dc:creator>sparr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 03:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that a deeper problem is that your freshmen engineers spent a &quot;couple of years&quot; on any single programming language.  Not even CS majors should do that, regardless of the quality (or lack thereof) of the language and tools.

PS: Colobots is the most awesome programming teaching tool ever.  Real time strategy game in first person 3D where you can control units manually or write high level programs to make them autonomous, complete with incremental tutorials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a deeper problem is that your freshmen engineers spent a &#8220;couple of years&#8221; on any single programming language.  Not even CS majors should do that, regardless of the quality (or lack thereof) of the language and tools.</p>
<p>PS: Colobots is the most awesome programming teaching tool ever.  Real time strategy game in first person 3D where you can control units manually or write high level programs to make them autonomous, complete with incremental tutorials.</p>
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		<title>By: bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/10309/comment-page-1#comment-328368</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 04:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The general opinion during the couple of years that freshmen engineers at my university had to suffer through Alice was that it sucked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general opinion during the couple of years that freshmen engineers at my university had to suffer through Alice was that it sucked.</p>
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		<title>By: royallthefourth</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/10309/comment-page-1#comment-328361</link>
		<dc:creator>royallthefourth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh...don&#039;t even both with this. It&#039;s tedious and it doesn&#039;t even properly teach people about object oriented programming. In fact, it teaches them ideas that are just plain wrong, like individual instances of classes having different member functions. What&#039;s that all about? Maybe I&#039;m just angry that the IS department at my alma mater uses this in its intro &quot;programming&quot; class. Good thing I was CS....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh&#8230;don&#8217;t even both with this. It&#8217;s tedious and it doesn&#8217;t even properly teach people about object oriented programming. In fact, it teaches them ideas that are just plain wrong, like individual instances of classes having different member functions. What&#8217;s that all about? Maybe I&#8217;m just angry that the IS department at my alma mater uses this in its intro &#8220;programming&#8221; class. Good thing I was CS&#8230;.</p>
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